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Will Anyone Save The Savings Scheme?

<p>My entry to the world of investment trusts&comma; nearly 25 years ago now&comma; was via monthly savings schemes&period; They made it both easy and cost-effective to invest small sums&period; But few such schemes exist today and they may soon die out completely&period;<&excl;--more--><&sol;p>&NewLine;<p>At various times&comma; I used savings schemes with Henderson&comma; RIT Capital Partners&comma; Fleming&comma; and Finsbury&period; Purchase charges were typically 0&period;5&percnt; so when stamp duty was added as well&comma; you could buy £50 of shares for just £1&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<p>It didn&&num;8217&semi;t take long to build up some meaningful positions and&comma; perhaps more importantly&comma; it removed the temptation of trying to time the market&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<p>You couldn&&num;8217&semi;t trade online in those days&period; When I did want to buy an individual share&comma; I had to sneak out of the office&comma; carrying my brick of a mobile&comma; and phone a broker from the comfort of the car park&period; Savings schemes were much simpler&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<h2>Baillie Gifford throws in the towel<&sol;h2>&NewLine;<p>Things look very different today&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<p>The latest firm <a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;citywire&period;co&period;uk&sol;investment-trust-insider&sol;news&sol;baillie-gifford-abandons-trust-saving-schemes-to-hargreaves&sol;a1222729">to call time<&sol;a> on its savings scheme is Baillie Gifford&period; 21&comma;000 investors&comma; collectively holding £1&period;3bn&comma; are to be transferred to Hargreaves Lansdown&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<p>The cost of purchasing trusts through this particular monthly scheme was nil&comma; although charges were made for sales and for holding them in an ISA&period; These cost levels will be preserved for three years and then everyone will move to the main Hargreaves Lansdown fee structure&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<p>I see that <a href&equals;"http&colon;&sol;&sol;diyinvestoruk&period;blogspot&period;com&sol;2019&sol;04&sol;investing-for-grandchildren-year-1&period;html">DIY Investor &lpar;UK&rpar;<&sol;a> has been caught up in this&comma; as he has been using the platform to invest for his grandchildren&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<p>It&&num;8217&semi;s disappointing that Baillie Gifford has gone down this route&period; You could make a strong case for them leading the industry both in terms of performance and low costs&period; But if they can&&num;8217&semi;t make the numbers stack up for schemes like this then I suspect no one can&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<p>In most cases&comma; when these schemes are transferred&comma; it seems that you move on the charging structure of the new platform more or less immediately&period; The three-year cost freeze that Baillie Gifford has negotiated seems like a pretty good concession&period; It gives folks a decent amount of time to see what else is on offer&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<h2>Hargreaves and Alliance are sweeping up<&sol;h2>&NewLine;<p>This isn&&num;8217&semi;t the first savings scheme that the mighty Hargreaves has taken on&period; It&&num;8217&semi;s also taken on clients from BlackRock&comma; Witan&comma; JPMorgan&comma; and RIT Capital Partners&comma; to name just a few&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<p>I was one of those transferred when it took over the RIT savings scheme in 2015&period; Having long since stopped putting in monthly amounts&comma; it had little effect on me and the switch seem to be handled very smoothly&period; Although&comma; as just one investment trust was involved&comma; I suspect the administration aspects were relatively simple&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<p>Alliance Trust&comma; itself recently swallowed up by Interactive Investor&comma; seems to be the other company taking on homeless savings schemes&period; It runs them for Allianz&comma; Artemis&comma; Dunedin&comma; Edinburgh Partners&comma; and Martin Currie&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<h2>Who still offers savings schemes&quest;<&sol;h2>&NewLine;<p>The ever-useful AIC website has information on which companies still offer savings schemes&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<p>It lists 16 firms that offer either an ISA&comma; investment scheme&comma; <a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;www&period;theaic&period;co&period;uk&sol;aic&sol;news&sol;press-releases&sol;saving-for-children-with-investment-companies">children&&num;8217&semi;s investment scheme or Junior ISA<&sol;a>&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<&excl;-- WP QUADS Content Ad Plugin v&period; 2&period;0&period;95 -->&NewLine;<div class&equals;"quads-location quads-ad3665 " id&equals;"quads-ad3665" style&equals;"float&colon;left&semi;margin&colon;10px 10px 10px 0&semi;padding&colon;0px 0px 0px 0&semi;" data-lazydelay&equals;"3000">&NewLine;<hr style&equals;"height&colon;5px"> &NewLine;<h3 style&equals;"text-align&colon; center&semi;">Join the Money Makers circle<&sol;h3>&NewLine;<p>I've teamed up with Jonathan Davis&comma; the editor of The Investment Trusts Handbook&comma; at Money Makers where I am now writing regular articles on trusts and funds&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<p>For more details of what you get by joining as a member <span style&equals;"color&colon; &num;0000ff&semi;"><a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;money-makers&period;co&sol;membership-join&sol;"><strong>please click here<&sol;strong><&sol;a>&period;<&sol;span><&sol;p>&NewLine;&NewLine;<hr style&equals;"height&colon;5px"> &NewLine;<&sol;div>&NewLine;&NewLine;<p>However&comma; a number of those listed are run by Alliance Trust and come with its standard £10 a month admin fee and £9&period;99 purchase charge&period; Others seem to be in the process of closing down and no longer accept new customers&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<p>Ignoring Fidelity&comma; which owns its own platform anyway&comma; this is who seems to be left&colon;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<table id&equals;"iti">&NewLine;<tbody>&NewLine;<tr>&NewLine;<th>Company<&sol;th>&NewLine;<th style&equals;"text-align&colon; center&semi;">Number<br &sol;>&NewLine;of trusts<&sol;th>&NewLine;<th>Summary<&sol;th>&NewLine;<&sol;tr>&NewLine;<tr>&NewLine;<td>Aberdeen Standard<&sol;td>&NewLine;<td style&equals;"text-align&colon; center&semi;">16<&sol;td>&NewLine;<td>£100 pm min&comma; purchase £0&comma; sale £10<&sol;td>&NewLine;<&sol;tr>&NewLine;<tr>&NewLine;<td>BMO<&sol;td>&NewLine;<td style&equals;"text-align&colon; center&semi;">11<&sol;td>&NewLine;<td>£50 pm min&comma; purchase £8&comma; sale £8&comma; annual £40<&sol;td>&NewLine;<&sol;tr>&NewLine;<tr>&NewLine;<td>Caledonia<&sol;td>&NewLine;<td style&equals;"text-align&colon; center&semi;">1<&sol;td>&NewLine;<td>£10 pm min&comma; purchase 0&period;5&percnt; &lpar;min £1&period;50&rpar;&comma; sale 1&percnt; &lpar;min £15&rpar;<&sol;td>&NewLine;<&sol;tr>&NewLine;<tr>&NewLine;<td>Pantheon<br &sol;>&NewLine;&lpar;via Share Centre&rpar;<&sol;td>&NewLine;<td style&equals;"text-align&colon; center&semi;">1<&sol;td>&NewLine;<td>£10 pm min&comma; purchase and sale £0<&sol;td>&NewLine;<&sol;tr>&NewLine;<tr>&NewLine;<td>Troy<br &sol;>&NewLine;&lpar;via Equiniti&rpar;<&sol;td>&NewLine;<td style&equals;"text-align&colon; center&semi;">1<&sol;td>&NewLine;<td>£10 pm min&comma; purchase £0&comma; sale £10<&sol;td>&NewLine;<&sol;tr>&NewLine;<&sol;tbody>&NewLine;<&sol;table>&NewLine;<p>As you can see&comma; it&&num;8217&semi;s pretty slim pickings&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<p>BMO&&num;8217&semi;s £8 purchase charge is pretty much the same as a normal share dealing platform&comma; effectively leaving Aberdeen Standard as the last man standing when it comes to the big investment trust firms&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<h2>Does it really matter&quest;<&sol;h2>&NewLine;<p>Of course&comma; my fondness for these schemes is heavily driven by nostalgia&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<p>Looking back&comma; it wasn&&num;8217&semi;t all plain sailing&period; I held these investments outside of an ISA&comma; so I had to keep track of each monthly purchase for CGT purposes&period; And up until 2008&comma; there was the added complication of adding a <a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;www&period;accountingweb&period;co&period;uk&sol;tax&sol;hmrc-policy&sol;farewell-to-indexation-allowance-1982-2017">separate indexation allowance<&sol;a> for each monthly purchase&period; Yeurgh&excl;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<p>What&&num;8217&semi;s more&comma; when I did sell one of my holdings&comma; electing to receive a cheque for the proceeds&comma; it got intercepted and cashed in by a ne&&num;8217&semi;er-do-well&period; Thankfully&comma; the matter was resolved with the minimum of fuss and a replacement cheque was sent out&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<p>These days&comma; most brokers offer regular investment plans&comma; allowing you to buy a range of shares&comma; ETFs and investment trusts for around £1&period;50&sol;£2&period; You are no longer tied to just one investment house and you can shelter everything in a single ISA&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<p>Some of these have annual administration charges as well&comma; so choosing an alternative low-cost provider can be tricky&period; At the moment&comma; from a somewhat cursory review&comma; Hargreaves Lansdown at £1&period;50 to purchase and Halifax at £2 look like the best value to me&comma; as they don&&num;8217&semi;t charge for investment trusts held outside of an ISA&period; iWeb &lpar;which&comma; like Halifax&comma; is owned by Lloyds Banking Group&rpar; is £5 to buy or sell but comes with a £25 account opening charge&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<p>However&comma; if you think you might end up with a larger sum invested several years down the line then sheltering your money in an ISA probably makes sense&period; It&&num;8217&semi;s difficult to be specific about how big &&num;8216&semi;a larger sum&&num;8217&semi; is&comma; but anyone investing £250 or more a month probably falls into that camp&period; Maybe even as low as £100&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<h2>Optionality rules<&sol;h2>&NewLine;<p>All that said&comma; I do worry that those new to the investing world don&&num;8217&semi;t have this option any longer&period; Although you can use an online broker&comma; the vast array of investment options that opens up can be somewhat overwhelming&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<p>And with the world of online trading shrinking to a few major players&comma; it&&num;8217&semi;s become clear that most of them want to concentrate on frequent traders that can generate them lots of commission&period; Quarterly admin charges are commonplace these days and this can be offputting for those just starting out with a few hundred pounds to invest&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<p>Of course&comma; new methods of trading like <a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;magic&period;freetrade&period;io&sol;join&sol;stuart&sol;6b4480e3">the Freetrade App<&sol;a> and Santander&&num;8217&semi;s Digital Investment Advisor might turn out to be the savings schemes of tomorrow&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<p>And for most of the population&comma; a passive investing strategy&comma; perhaps with something like a Vanguard Life Strategy fund&comma; is usually more than adequate&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<p>Still&comma; I can&&num;8217&semi;t help feeling a little sad at the impending demise of the humble savings scheme&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine; &NewLine;&nbsp&semi;&NewLine;<hr style&equals;"height&colon;3px">&NewLine;<h3>Disclaimer<&sol;h3>&NewLine;<p>Please note that I may own some of the investments mentioned above -- you can see my current holdings on <a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;www&period;itinvestor&period;co&period;uk&sol;portfolio&sol;">my portfolio page<&sol;a>&period; <&sol;p>&NewLine;<p>Nothing on this website should be regarded as a buy or sell recommendation as I'm just a random person writing a blog in his spare time and I am not authorised to give financial advice&period; Always do your own research and seek financial advice if necessary&excl;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<hr style&equals;""height&colon;3px"">&NewLine;<h3>Subscribe to IT Investor<&sol;h3>&NewLine;<p>Get an email alert every time I publish a new article&period; Your email address won't be used for anything else&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<p><div class&equals;"tnp tnp-subscription ">&NewLine;<form method&equals;"post" action&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;www&period;itinvestor&period;co&period;uk&sol;wp-admin&sol;admin-ajax&period;php&quest;action&equals;tnp&amp&semi;na&equals;s">&NewLine;<input type&equals;"hidden" name&equals;"nlang" value&equals;"">&NewLine;<div class&equals;"tnp-field tnp-field-email"><label for&equals;"tnp-1">Enter your email address&period;&period;&period;<&sol;label>&NewLine;<input class&equals;"tnp-email" type&equals;"email" name&equals;"ne" id&equals;"tnp-1" value&equals;"" placeholder&equals;"" required><&sol;div>&NewLine;<div class&equals;"tnp-field tnp-field-button" style&equals;"text-align&colon; 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