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		By: Michael		</title>
		<link>https://www.itinvestor.co.uk/2021/04/all-change-at-acorn-income-fund/#comment-5206</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 May 2021 08:02:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thx for this- I wouldn’t touch it with a barge pole]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thx for this- I wouldn’t touch it with a barge pole</p>
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		By: ITinvestor		</title>
		<link>https://www.itinvestor.co.uk/2021/04/all-change-at-acorn-income-fund/#comment-5171</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ITinvestor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2021 05:01:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.itinvestor.co.uk/2021/04/all-change-at-acorn-income-fund/#comment-5168&quot;&gt;Mark&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes, it&#039;s quite a change! I did another piece about it here in case you haven&#039;t seen it yet.
https://www.itinvestor.co.uk/2021/05/acorn-income-jumps-on-the-sustainable-bandwagon/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.itinvestor.co.uk/2021/04/all-change-at-acorn-income-fund/#comment-5168">Mark</a>.</p>
<p>Yes, it&#8217;s quite a change! I did another piece about it here in case you haven&#8217;t seen it yet.<br />
<a href="https://www.itinvestor.co.uk/2021/05/acorn-income-jumps-on-the-sustainable-bandwagon/" rel="ugc">https://www.itinvestor.co.uk/2021/05/acorn-income-jumps-on-the-sustainable-bandwagon/</a></p>
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		By: Mark		</title>
		<link>https://www.itinvestor.co.uk/2021/04/all-change-at-acorn-income-fund/#comment-5168</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 May 2021 20:28:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The recent announcement of the change of strategy is quite remarkable.  Rather than a geared play on UK small caps (a decent place to be at the moment), they are going into a global equity income strategy.  It doesn&#039;t even sound like global small caps, which could have been something to get into.

I liked the idea of Acorns growing into oaks!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The recent announcement of the change of strategy is quite remarkable.  Rather than a geared play on UK small caps (a decent place to be at the moment), they are going into a global equity income strategy.  It doesn&#8217;t even sound like global small caps, which could have been something to get into.</p>
<p>I liked the idea of Acorns growing into oaks!</p>
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		By: ITinvestor		</title>
		<link>https://www.itinvestor.co.uk/2021/04/all-change-at-acorn-income-fund/#comment-5091</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ITinvestor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 May 2021 13:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.itinvestor.co.uk/2021/04/all-change-at-acorn-income-fund/#comment-5090&quot;&gt;chrisssyB&lt;/a&gt;.

Board level I believe although it&#039;s been the same set-up since the trust was created in 1999 and the board has obviously consisted of many different individuals since then.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.itinvestor.co.uk/2021/04/all-change-at-acorn-income-fund/#comment-5090">chrisssyB</a>.</p>
<p>Board level I believe although it&#8217;s been the same set-up since the trust was created in 1999 and the board has obviously consisted of many different individuals since then.</p>
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		By: chrisssyB		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[chrisssyB]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 May 2021 09:34:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There&#039;s absolutely no point in having high gearing if most of the proceeds are then invested in fixed income.  Far too much work and complexity to bother.  Better to have a simple and cheaper bank debt at a lower level.  Whoever thought of their strategy needs to explain themselves.  Do you know if that decision was at the board level or the manager?   I assume the board.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s absolutely no point in having high gearing if most of the proceeds are then invested in fixed income.  Far too much work and complexity to bother.  Better to have a simple and cheaper bank debt at a lower level.  Whoever thought of their strategy needs to explain themselves.  Do you know if that decision was at the board level or the manager?   I assume the board.</p>
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		By: ITinvestor		</title>
		<link>https://www.itinvestor.co.uk/2021/04/all-change-at-acorn-income-fund/#comment-5072</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ITinvestor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Apr 2021 08:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.itinvestor.co.uk/2021/04/all-change-at-acorn-income-fund/#comment-5070&quot;&gt;Tom D&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks, Tom D. I was happy with the gearing and complexity in a small position alongside another couple of small-cap trusts. It would have been too much for me otherwise I suspect. 

And selling is undoubtedly tough - it&#039;s very easy to change course just before the tide turns, to mix my metaphors. But I do find the basket approach can help with these things. By buying a handful of similar trusts you can get a better feel for the overall sector and it feels more natural to switch trusts along the way as you learn more about what seems to work and what doesn&#039;t.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.itinvestor.co.uk/2021/04/all-change-at-acorn-income-fund/#comment-5070">Tom D</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks, Tom D. I was happy with the gearing and complexity in a small position alongside another couple of small-cap trusts. It would have been too much for me otherwise I suspect. </p>
<p>And selling is undoubtedly tough &#8211; it&#8217;s very easy to change course just before the tide turns, to mix my metaphors. But I do find the basket approach can help with these things. By buying a handful of similar trusts you can get a better feel for the overall sector and it feels more natural to switch trusts along the way as you learn more about what seems to work and what doesn&#8217;t.</p>
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		By: Tom D		</title>
		<link>https://www.itinvestor.co.uk/2021/04/all-change-at-acorn-income-fund/#comment-5070</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom D]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Apr 2021 08:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks, this is a particularly good review. 

Attracted by the yield, I considered Acorn for the portfolio of a family member about four years ago, but ended up going with another Premier Miton split-capital investment trust, now called Premier Miton Global Renewables, which has been a great success. The volatility of smaller companies make for a queasy combination with so much gearing, and buffering with corporate bonds adds further complexity as you describe. Lots of gearing always unsettles me: my two big losses, Marconi and Candover, were both caused by excessive debt.

I find selling decisions much harder than buying ones: something about reversing a decision that seemed right before and the lingering possibility of recovery.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, this is a particularly good review. </p>
<p>Attracted by the yield, I considered Acorn for the portfolio of a family member about four years ago, but ended up going with another Premier Miton split-capital investment trust, now called Premier Miton Global Renewables, which has been a great success. The volatility of smaller companies make for a queasy combination with so much gearing, and buffering with corporate bonds adds further complexity as you describe. Lots of gearing always unsettles me: my two big losses, Marconi and Candover, were both caused by excessive debt.</p>
<p>I find selling decisions much harder than buying ones: something about reversing a decision that seemed right before and the lingering possibility of recovery.</p>
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		By: ITinvestor		</title>
		<link>https://www.itinvestor.co.uk/2021/04/all-change-at-acorn-income-fund/#comment-5069</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ITinvestor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Apr 2021 08:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.itinvestor.co.uk/2021/04/all-change-at-acorn-income-fund/#comment-5066&quot;&gt;Phil D&lt;/a&gt;.

@J - Thanks! Yes, that VCT has done pretty well although I don&#039;t think M&amp;M have ever been formally involved with it. The discount has been quite wide for a little while now, and has been all over the place over the last 10 years so difficult to know if the uncertainty is a factor with it right now. I reckon it&#039;s more likely to narrow than widen from here but we&#039;ll have to see how things play out.

@Phil D - congrats, sounds like a well-timed exit. The company has often said the income portfolio should cushion the effect of the gearing but not completely cancel it out and I was expecting to see some gearing uplift from a portfolio that trebled in a decade. But without the income performance figures, we&#039;re in the dark really. To be honest, if the income side did nullify the gearing then you could argue what&#039;s the point of having this structure at all. I&#039;m not sure we&#039;ll get much more than a summary of the strategic review but it may shed some light on what&#039;s happened.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.itinvestor.co.uk/2021/04/all-change-at-acorn-income-fund/#comment-5066">Phil D</a>.</p>
<p>@J &#8211; Thanks! Yes, that VCT has done pretty well although I don&#8217;t think M&#038;M have ever been formally involved with it. The discount has been quite wide for a little while now, and has been all over the place over the last 10 years so difficult to know if the uncertainty is a factor with it right now. I reckon it&#8217;s more likely to narrow than widen from here but we&#8217;ll have to see how things play out.</p>
<p>@Phil D &#8211; congrats, sounds like a well-timed exit. The company has often said the income portfolio should cushion the effect of the gearing but not completely cancel it out and I was expecting to see some gearing uplift from a portfolio that trebled in a decade. But without the income performance figures, we&#8217;re in the dark really. To be honest, if the income side did nullify the gearing then you could argue what&#8217;s the point of having this structure at all. I&#8217;m not sure we&#8217;ll get much more than a summary of the strategic review but it may shed some light on what&#8217;s happened.</p>
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		By: Phil D		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Phil D]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Apr 2021 18:59:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I used to be a holder, but exited a couple of years ago. I haven&#039;t crunched the numbers, but suspect that the reason the gearing hasn&#039;t benefited the performance in a rising market is the income sub fund. In simple terms there is an income fund backing the zeros and an ungeared smaller Co&#039;s equity fund. It&#039;s not really quite that simple, as the portfolios and the capital don&#039;t precisely match, but I&#039;m sure this is why the gearing benefit is missing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to be a holder, but exited a couple of years ago. I haven&#8217;t crunched the numbers, but suspect that the reason the gearing hasn&#8217;t benefited the performance in a rising market is the income sub fund. In simple terms there is an income fund backing the zeros and an ungeared smaller Co&#8217;s equity fund. It&#8217;s not really quite that simple, as the portfolios and the capital don&#8217;t precisely match, but I&#8217;m sure this is why the gearing benefit is missing.</p>
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