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		By: ITinvestor		</title>
		<link>https://www.itinvestor.co.uk/2021/05/acorn-income-jumps-on-the-sustainable-bandwagon/#comment-5640</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2021 11:09:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A further update today...
https://www.investegate.co.uk/acorn-income-fund/prn/update-on-future-of-the-company/20210901110349P1588/

Shaereholders have the option to roll-over into Unicorn UK Income, an open-ended fund with the same managers and a two-thirds match of holdings, or elect to take cash close to NAV at the time of liquidation. 

Better outcome than before I&#039;d say and the market seems to agree with the shares now up some 10%. The bid price of 400p is still an 11% discount to the NAV on 27 August so my current plan is to sit tight and take the cash option in due course.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A further update today&#8230;<br />
<a href="https://www.investegate.co.uk/acorn-income-fund/prn/update-on-future-of-the-company/20210901110349P1588/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.investegate.co.uk/acorn-income-fund/prn/update-on-future-of-the-company/20210901110349P1588/</a></p>
<p>Shaereholders have the option to roll-over into Unicorn UK Income, an open-ended fund with the same managers and a two-thirds match of holdings, or elect to take cash close to NAV at the time of liquidation. </p>
<p>Better outcome than before I&#8217;d say and the market seems to agree with the shares now up some 10%. The bid price of 400p is still an 11% discount to the NAV on 27 August so my current plan is to sit tight and take the cash option in due course.</p>
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		By: ITinvestor		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2021 08:19:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A change of plan it would seem! It looks like major shareholders weren&#039;t that keen on the BMO proposal, given the discount didn&#039;t narrow much if at all, and other expressions of interest have since been received. 

&lt;em&gt;&quot;An announcement with further details on the future of the Company will be published as soon as practicable and expected to be no later than mid-September. Thereafter, the Company expects to publish a circular in relation to the Board&#039;s proposals for the future of the Company, including a notice convening the Extraordinary and Annual General Meetings.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

Third interim dividend has been held at 5.75p as a sop, after earlier indications it was likely to be cut, but all a bit of a shambles really. Still minded to hold until we have a better idea of the next steps as not keen on selling out on a near-20% discount with a continuation vote looming.

https://investegate.co.uk/acorn-income-fund--aif-/prn/dividend-declaration-and-update-on-future-of-the-company/20210812070000P1220/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A change of plan it would seem! It looks like major shareholders weren&#8217;t that keen on the BMO proposal, given the discount didn&#8217;t narrow much if at all, and other expressions of interest have since been received. </p>
<p><em>&#8220;An announcement with further details on the future of the Company will be published as soon as practicable and expected to be no later than mid-September. Thereafter, the Company expects to publish a circular in relation to the Board&#8217;s proposals for the future of the Company, including a notice convening the Extraordinary and Annual General Meetings.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Third interim dividend has been held at 5.75p as a sop, after earlier indications it was likely to be cut, but all a bit of a shambles really. Still minded to hold until we have a better idea of the next steps as not keen on selling out on a near-20% discount with a continuation vote looming.</p>
<p><a href="https://investegate.co.uk/acorn-income-fund--aif-/prn/dividend-declaration-and-update-on-future-of-the-company/20210812070000P1220/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://investegate.co.uk/acorn-income-fund&#8211;aif-/prn/dividend-declaration-and-update-on-future-of-the-company/20210812070000P1220/</a></p>
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		By: ITinvestor		</title>
		<link>https://www.itinvestor.co.uk/2021/05/acorn-income-jumps-on-the-sustainable-bandwagon/#comment-5497</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2021 18:01:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Only a couple of weeks to go now until the continuation vote at the AGM on Tuesday 10th August however there is still no sign of the circular setting out more details on the proposed manager change. Disappointing, to say the least. Have to say that I&#039;ve become more minded to vote against the trust continuing, especially as the discount has started to widen out again.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only a couple of weeks to go now until the continuation vote at the AGM on Tuesday 10th August however there is still no sign of the circular setting out more details on the proposed manager change. Disappointing, to say the least. Have to say that I&#8217;ve become more minded to vote against the trust continuing, especially as the discount has started to widen out again.</p>
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		By: ITinvestor		</title>
		<link>https://www.itinvestor.co.uk/2021/05/acorn-income-jumps-on-the-sustainable-bandwagon/#comment-5172</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2021 05:25:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.itinvestor.co.uk/2021/05/acorn-income-jumps-on-the-sustainable-bandwagon/#comment-5169&quot;&gt;Nick&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Nick, yes I suspect you could be right about some people moving over to Chelverton. It has the same ZDP structure, was also launched in 1999, but is not quite as highly geared. Perhaps more importantly, it doesn&#039;t have the complication of the income portfolio that Acorn has. I believe its yield has been lower than Acorn in the past (as has its dividend growth in recent years) but it looks a lot more sustainable (!) given the level of revenue reserves Chelverton has.

The timing of shifting away from the UK could backfire of course but, on the other hand, many folks have been saying the UK is undervalued for a long, long time now. Year-to-date, I think the UK is up 10% vs 5% for global, so 2021 could be the first year in several where the UK comes out meaningfully ahead. 

However, I guess you could also argue that we have too many UK-focused equity trusts relative to global ones and these mandate changes can help address that balance a little.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.itinvestor.co.uk/2021/05/acorn-income-jumps-on-the-sustainable-bandwagon/#comment-5169">Nick</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Nick, yes I suspect you could be right about some people moving over to Chelverton. It has the same ZDP structure, was also launched in 1999, but is not quite as highly geared. Perhaps more importantly, it doesn&#8217;t have the complication of the income portfolio that Acorn has. I believe its yield has been lower than Acorn in the past (as has its dividend growth in recent years) but it looks a lot more sustainable (!) given the level of revenue reserves Chelverton has.</p>
<p>The timing of shifting away from the UK could backfire of course but, on the other hand, many folks have been saying the UK is undervalued for a long, long time now. Year-to-date, I think the UK is up 10% vs 5% for global, so 2021 could be the first year in several where the UK comes out meaningfully ahead. </p>
<p>However, I guess you could also argue that we have too many UK-focused equity trusts relative to global ones and these mandate changes can help address that balance a little.</p>
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		By: Nick		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 May 2021 20:44:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s interesting that both Acorn and Keystone are moving away from the UK just as there seems to be increasing positivity about the relative value available from UK equities.
I&#039;m surprised the yield may be so high, given the type of companies likely to be held, but it will distinguish it from Keystone, which will yield nearly zero, I believe.
I bought Keystone for exposure to Baillie Gifford&#039;s style and their track record with growth and I don&#039;t think I&#039;d be tempted by Acorn.
I hold Chelverton UK Dividend for small company, highly geared, high income and I wonder whether some shareholders may migrate to them? It&#039;s been volatile, but recent performance has been excellent.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s interesting that both Acorn and Keystone are moving away from the UK just as there seems to be increasing positivity about the relative value available from UK equities.<br />
I&#8217;m surprised the yield may be so high, given the type of companies likely to be held, but it will distinguish it from Keystone, which will yield nearly zero, I believe.<br />
I bought Keystone for exposure to Baillie Gifford&#8217;s style and their track record with growth and I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;d be tempted by Acorn.<br />
I hold Chelverton UK Dividend for small company, highly geared, high income and I wonder whether some shareholders may migrate to them? It&#8217;s been volatile, but recent performance has been excellent.</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 May 2021 13:13:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.itinvestor.co.uk/2021/05/acorn-income-jumps-on-the-sustainable-bandwagon/#comment-5166&quot;&gt;tom_grlla&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes, violent is a good word to describe the change here and that&#039;s certainly irked people from the comments I&#039;ve seen so far. 

I haven&#039;t paid a great deal of attention to manager changes in the past but we&#039;ve seen a rash of them recently. Edinburgh and Temple Bar were more subtle shifts, broadly keeping the same style, but Witan Pacific to BGCG was a more marked change. This proposed change from Acorn and Keystone have seen the geographic focus move from UK to global plus the sustainable angle on top, so they really are complete reinventions.

At least with Acorn, shareholders get to vote on the policy change and the continuation. I suspect if shareholders do vote to wind-up then merging with another small-cap trust would then become one of the possible exit routes.

Boards not wanting to put themselves out a job is a potential risk of course, although many of them have multiple directorships and shorter terms are becoming more commonplace so I&#039;m not sure how big a factor it is in practice. And I suspect board members that do seem to cling on too much may find it harder to get future directorships.

I&#039;d say the make-up of my portfolio is driving a lot of my decision here. A shift to something more global is probably what I would have done anyway and having quite a lot in Fundsmith/SSON/LTG already means I&#039;m happy to diversify a bit with a different fund management house. But this definitely in the experimental pile so I can see how it develops.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.itinvestor.co.uk/2021/05/acorn-income-jumps-on-the-sustainable-bandwagon/#comment-5166">tom_grlla</a>.</p>
<p>Yes, violent is a good word to describe the change here and that&#8217;s certainly irked people from the comments I&#8217;ve seen so far. </p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t paid a great deal of attention to manager changes in the past but we&#8217;ve seen a rash of them recently. Edinburgh and Temple Bar were more subtle shifts, broadly keeping the same style, but Witan Pacific to BGCG was a more marked change. This proposed change from Acorn and Keystone have seen the geographic focus move from UK to global plus the sustainable angle on top, so they really are complete reinventions.</p>
<p>At least with Acorn, shareholders get to vote on the policy change and the continuation. I suspect if shareholders do vote to wind-up then merging with another small-cap trust would then become one of the possible exit routes.</p>
<p>Boards not wanting to put themselves out a job is a potential risk of course, although many of them have multiple directorships and shorter terms are becoming more commonplace so I&#8217;m not sure how big a factor it is in practice. And I suspect board members that do seem to cling on too much may find it harder to get future directorships.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d say the make-up of my portfolio is driving a lot of my decision here. A shift to something more global is probably what I would have done anyway and having quite a lot in Fundsmith/SSON/LTG already means I&#8217;m happy to diversify a bit with a different fund management house. But this definitely in the experimental pile so I can see how it develops.</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 May 2021 12:33:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Very interesting, and subjective.  Personally it feels inappropriate to make such a violent style change - stick broadly with what the shareholders sign up for.  To be frank - the best thing for shareholders would probably have been to merge it with another UK Sml Cos trust, but then the Board are putting themselves out of a job... 

The BMO Global Sustainable fund looks really uninspiring to me - why choose anything but an exceptional fund with exceptional (and aligned) managers.  It&#039;s so rare for giant fund houses like this to have inspiring, free-thinking managers/funds.

I would be very surprised if e.g. Fundsmith or Smithson haven&#039;t outperformed the global BMO trust over the next 5 years.  Sometimes it&#039;s better just to add to your best ideas...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting, and subjective.  Personally it feels inappropriate to make such a violent style change &#8211; stick broadly with what the shareholders sign up for.  To be frank &#8211; the best thing for shareholders would probably have been to merge it with another UK Sml Cos trust, but then the Board are putting themselves out of a job&#8230; </p>
<p>The BMO Global Sustainable fund looks really uninspiring to me &#8211; why choose anything but an exceptional fund with exceptional (and aligned) managers.  It&#8217;s so rare for giant fund houses like this to have inspiring, free-thinking managers/funds.</p>
<p>I would be very surprised if e.g. Fundsmith or Smithson haven&#8217;t outperformed the global BMO trust over the next 5 years.  Sometimes it&#8217;s better just to add to your best ideas&#8230;</p>
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